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Day 3
Jan 30, 2012 4:04:28 GMT -5
Post by Kay on Jan 30, 2012 4:04:28 GMT -5
Your good fortune last night was apparently too good to continue. Two innocent Pokemon have been killed. After identifying them, you wait for a moment before beginning discussion, both to respect the dead, and to clear your mind.
Kingsword has died! He was:
Inspiration has died! He was:
You hear a loud voice again:
Day 2 has begun. Day 2 ends at 4:00 AM EST/9:00 AM GMT on 2/1. You have 48 hours. Again, if you feel this isn't enough time, any requests for extension made more than 6 hours before the deadline will automatically be granted.
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Day 3
Jan 30, 2012 4:10:59 GMT -5
Post by Trail of Tears on Jan 30, 2012 4:10:59 GMT -5
I was initially planning to call for a massclaim in hopes we could bruteforce our way to Scum 3 through role shenanigans... but then two deaths popped up instead of just one, which means that might not be as safe as I thought.
So, does anybody wanna claim a vigkill on either of those dead bodies, or do we have a SK in our midst?
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Day 3
Jan 30, 2012 4:27:29 GMT -5
Post by Trail of Tears on Jan 30, 2012 4:27:29 GMT -5
Oh wait, I just realized this game was never stated to be role madness, and I guess it isn't, since a Vanilla just flipped. Count massclaim out as a potential good idea, then. I myself have a somewhat out-of-the-ordinary role, so I just kind of assumed. <_<
Will re-read the thread when I'm not sick at 1:27 AM.
I think WBB is probably town, though, despite what the Announcer said. Note that Exile got caught tying his wagon with Silver's. I doubt Exile's solution to seeing a scumbuddy in danger would have been to endanger another scumbdudy.
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Day 3
Jan 30, 2012 4:27:45 GMT -5
Post by Trail of Tears on Jan 30, 2012 4:27:45 GMT -5
Well, re-read the game. Whatever, close enough.
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Day 3
Jan 30, 2012 4:30:53 GMT -5
Post by Kingsword on Jan 30, 2012 4:30:53 GMT -5
Well, shit.
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Day 3
Jan 30, 2012 4:46:55 GMT -5
Post by Miles to Go on Jan 30, 2012 4:46:55 GMT -5
Oh wait, I just realized this game was never stated to be role madness, and I guess it isn't, since a Vanilla just flipped. Count massclaim out as a potential good idea, then. I myself have a somewhat out-of-the-ordinary role, so I just kind of assumed. <_< I don't have time to make a big post right now, but that's not a vanilla. The "at this time" part implies it's either a backup or certain events would have caused him to gain powers.
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Day 3
Jan 30, 2012 5:16:37 GMT -5
Post by Fisherman's Boy on Jan 30, 2012 5:16:37 GMT -5
Why is the announcer posting reads? I myself have a somewhat out-of-the-ordinary role, so I just kind of assumed. <_< Me too, I'm beginning to think that there might not be any entirely ordinary roles in this game. relevant analysis tiiime MountainDay 1: Forgets about the game for a while, comes back after being voted. Not the best reaction to what follows. Says there's nothing to comment on, denies mudslinging (whatever that is). Counters Miles to Go's mention of her conveniently-timed appearance by pointing out how lynching her could be what's convenient for scum!MtG. Thinks typical Day 1 behaviour (pushing lynches on relatively little information) is scummy. Maybe. Night 1: Denies mudslinging again, apologises for potential offence taken (to suspicion in a mafia game?). Thinks Miles to Go's consistent suspicion of her is "unsettling" (but still not scummy). Makes an actually decent case about MtG tunnelling a little too hard considering the strength of her argument, but accuses her of voting too hastily instead. Then something about AtE, I don't get it. A bit more talking about how she's wary of Miles to Go (b-but it's not like she thinks it's scummy or anything!). Then some rhetorical bullshit, which seemed to infect everyone for the remainder of the phase for some reason. Day 2: A new Mountain, there was a sub in there somewhere. HOLY FUCK READS (almost) and a Measure of a Man vote. Points out that WBB went and justified her persuaded vote for some reason. Asks Crashing Down why she doesn't want Exile lynched. If there's a pattern here, it's a lot of non-committal defensive tip-toeing. A bit better post-sub, but still did very little. Her "read" post was a thing, but oddly devoid of actual opinion. I must say I find myself suspicious of it. War Between BrothersDay 1: Investigates own name. Says avatars are too mainstream (but later got one, obvious scumtell). Some pages go by, she mentions how everyone seems to have forgotten her. Has been reading but doesn't do anything. Doesn't feel the need to lynch someone because she doesn't need to, or rather didn't (this post is extremely confusing and I'd like the wording clarified), votes Trail of Tears for "influencing votes". Night 1: Explains last phase's post, I can't paraphrase this.Day 2: Votes Crashing Down because she was persuaded, then goes into heavy detail about CD's failure to contribute on Day 1 and justifying the vote like it was voluntary. Says Team Skull exists, but won't say anything more than that. Says that a Team Skull!herself wouldn't reveal that because it would be better to keep it a secret. Says Crashing Down could have come up with something better than she did on Day 1. Agrees that Mountain is suspicious but can't do anything about it. Would like to live, says everyone was too quick to dismiss the possible existence of a third faction. Might miss the end of the phase because of having a life. Thinks it may be useful to the town to know Team Skull exists, apparently knows of its existence because of her role but doesn't know anything about their win condition or anything. Doesn't really want an Exile lynch and still prefers CD, but is more neutral than before. Agrees with 72 hour phases > 48 hour phases. Feels obligated to argue to lynch the person she was persuaded onto? Thinks CD "has explaining to do" and is a good lynch target until she fulfills this ambiguous criteria, despite only being half-scummy. Takes arguments she doesn't agree with to understand them better (this is terrible and confuses the town, btw)? In light of ToT pointing out that Exile attempted to get WBB lynched in place of TS, what I say here really doesn't have quite as much value, which is just as well because I really can't get a read on this kind of behaviour. The recurring theme here is poor logic, which is certainly a scumtell under certain circumstances, but I don't think this is them. Overall obvtown, I think. This has me choosing between Mountain and Crashing Down. CD is still scummier as far as I can see. ##Vote: Crashing Down
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Day 3
Jan 30, 2012 8:59:17 GMT -5
Post by Crashing Down on Jan 30, 2012 8:59:17 GMT -5
I was initially planning to call for a massclaim in hopes we could bruteforce our way to Scum 3 through role shenanigans... but then two deaths popped up instead of just one, which means that might not be as safe as I thought. So, does anybody wanna claim a vigkill on either of those dead bodies, or do we have a SK in our midst? I was going to claim anyways today to clear up any suspicion. Thank you for leading me in. I'm the Vigilante. I shot Kingsword. I felt that he was the best target. My apologies for shooting a townie. I have 1 shot left, though, before I become as useful as a limp noodle.
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Day 3
Jan 30, 2012 10:51:58 GMT -5
Post by Sedna on Jan 30, 2012 10:51:58 GMT -5
I'm the Vigilante. I shot Kingsword. I felt that he was the best target. My apologies for shooting a townie. I have 1 shot left, though, before I become as useful as a limp noodle. Yesterday, you claimed that you thought Mountain was most likely to be mafia, what changed your mind? ##Vote: Fisherman's BoySomething about you doesn't seem quite right. You seem to be tunneling, although I've come to find out that somebody has told you to tunnel. Also I'd like to remind you that summaries are not the only method of analysis. Ask questions, put people under scrutiny, etc.
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Day 3
Jan 30, 2012 12:50:59 GMT -5
Post by Crashing Down on Jan 30, 2012 12:50:59 GMT -5
I'm the Vigilante. I shot Kingsword. I felt that he was the best target. My apologies for shooting a townie. I have 1 shot left, though, before I become as useful as a limp noodle. Yesterday, you claimed that you thought Mountain was most likely to be mafia, what changed your mind? ##Vote: Fisherman's BoySomething about you doesn't seem quite right. You seem to be tunneling, although I've come to find out that somebody has told you to tunnel. Also I'd like to remind you that summaries are not the only method of analysis. Ask questions, put people under scrutiny, etc. I reread Mountain's posts, and found that he wasn't quite as scummy as I initially thought. Kingsword had failed to even do anything useful. He struck me as scum. Of course, given he's town, and how he acted, I think I know who he was. And now for my thoughts. I agree with Sedna about the tunnel thing. But you also have kind of been dodging the point. I won't vote yet, as to see what he does, and I need to summarize the last 5 pages of Day 1.
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Day 3
Jan 30, 2012 12:58:36 GMT -5
Post by May Queen on Jan 30, 2012 12:58:36 GMT -5
Where was the logic in shooting kingsword? He was part of the bandwagon on TS on D1, and hasn't really been very obv scum. And you never really pushed for him earlier. In fact, I don't recall anyone calling for his head.
Also, any thoughts on why stone soup was killed N1? Seems a bit odd IMO.
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Day 3
Jan 30, 2012 15:16:45 GMT -5
Post by Mountain on Jan 30, 2012 15:16:45 GMT -5
Kingsword was a bad vig target bro. Sure he did almost nothing but he also wasn't scummy. Where was the logic in shooting kingsword? He was part of the bandwagon on TS on D1, and hasn't really been very obv scum. And you never really pushed for him earlier. In fact, I don't recall anyone calling for his head. Also, any thoughts on why stone soup was killed N1? Seems a bit odd IMO. Maybe the mafia thought those extra accounts were hidden players or something? I agree with it being odd though.
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Day 3
Jan 30, 2012 15:18:56 GMT -5
Post by Mountain on Jan 30, 2012 15:18:56 GMT -5
Also I think I'm going to ##Vote: Measure of a Man again. With the reasoning that he/she should talk.
Unless was he one of the ones that needs a sub? Cause then I'd feel like a jerk.
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Day 3
Jan 30, 2012 16:38:28 GMT -5
Post by Inspiration on Jan 30, 2012 16:38:28 GMT -5
They're just jealous that I had the coolest avatar.
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Day 3
Jan 30, 2012 18:03:12 GMT -5
Post by Trail of Tears on Jan 30, 2012 18:03:12 GMT -5
Sedna: Can you use your Persuader ability again tonight? I would figure that this set-up only has three scum given the apparent existance of a Team Skull, so if somebody gets NK'd at the same time, that'd give you a tentative town clear (assuming scum can't NK and use abilities on the same night). :sigh: at Crashing Down's choice of vig target, but spilt milk, I suppose. She's probably town. I'd request a shot on one of MoaM or CtN if the replacements don't pick up the pace, because as is they're totally unreadable wildcards that I'd rather not have to use up a lynch on. Exile wagon from yesterday looks pretty solid. I don't think he was bussed. I did initially think Sedna's switch onto MoaM in the middle of the day looked rather odd, but my doubts on him can be solved via Persuader usage anyway. ##Vote MountainDislike this post. I don't see any conclusions being made on who might be scum in it, just a lot of reporter-style recaps on what people have been doing. Given MoaM wasn't getting lynched at that point in the day, it just looks like a votepark that Mountain made to avoid being held accountable for a vote on any wagon that actually had a chance of flipping that day. Her comments on Exile in particular were notably waffly, something I'm wary of. As for right now, it's Day 3 and we have two scumflips to work with, so voting a lurker instead of taking flips into account is a total waste of vote at this point, especially since we know that MoaM had to request a replacement anyway. Not providing any solid opinions on the players who have been talking is scummy at this stage, so I think Mountain continuing to vote MoaM right now just means she's taking the easy way out of actually scumhunting. Fisherwoman's Girl reads to me more like "weird town" than scum. I don't think scum would have taken a strong stance of "I don't see why Exile is scummy at all!" yesterday when Exile was already probably going to get lynched and flipped that day unless they wanted to attempt refuge in audacity, so that seems like a null tell to me. Regarding Stone Soup's death, it's possible that there's a flavor doctor or BP which uses dummy accounts to absorb kills. I don't think scum would have risked shooting a player not in the game. Other than that, no idea.
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