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Day 3
Jan 31, 2012 5:32:09 GMT -5
Post by Miles to Go on Jan 31, 2012 5:32:09 GMT -5
... Oh wait, you're claiming vanilla who scans as independent thief.
Sorry, not buying it, especially since I don't think this game has any true vanillas.
##Vote: Mountain
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Day 3
Jan 31, 2012 8:29:38 GMT -5
Post by War Between Brothers on Jan 31, 2012 8:29:38 GMT -5
Ouch. Two townies gone.
So, we have CD claiming vig. Just gonna say, your next shot better be good, if you are. I trust you, for now. But, Sedna (post #8) does raise a good point: Why change your mind? Wouldn't it of been better to throw a shot at Mountain instead? But no matter, you justified why (post #9).
RE: Stone Soup: I actually have no idea what to think of that. ToT (post #14) does mention a flavor doctor/BP being a possibility. I would think that would be more likely, as I don't think the mafia are that absent-minded to pick a dummy account. Who it might be (if it exists), we don't know.
Mountain claimed to be a vanilla scanning as an independent thief. Tbh, I don't think town has much to lose on a Mountain lynch. Should he be telling the truth, then we have to accept it as a reasonable loss. But only if he turns out to be town. You never know, he could be mafia that scans independent. And if he was only trying to cover himself with it, then that indicates scum to me.
tl;dr: No matter what Mountain flips, town effectively wins.
##Vote: Mountain
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Day 3
Jan 31, 2012 8:49:15 GMT -5
Post by Crashing Down on Jan 31, 2012 8:49:15 GMT -5
Ouch. Two townies gone. So, we have CD claiming vig. Just gonna say, your next shot better be good, if you are. I trust you, for now. But, Sedna (post #8) does raise a good point: Why change your mind? Wouldn't it of been better to throw a shot at Mountain instead? But no matter, you justified why (post #9). I know my next target choices. The thing is, it depends on if they show up.
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Day 3
Jan 31, 2012 8:49:51 GMT -5
Post by Crashing Down on Jan 31, 2012 8:49:51 GMT -5
Ouch. Two townies gone. So, we have CD claiming vig. Just gonna say, your next shot better be good, if you are. I trust you, for now. But, Sedna (post #8) does raise a good point: Why change your mind? Wouldn't it of been better to throw a shot at Mountain instead? But no matter, you justified why (post #9). I know my next target choices. The thing is, it depends on if they show up. By that I mean if only one of them shows, I shoot the other.
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Day 3
Jan 31, 2012 8:54:58 GMT -5
Post by War Between Brothers on Jan 31, 2012 8:54:58 GMT -5
I know my next target choices. The thing is, it depends on if they show up. By that I mean if only one of them shows, I shoot the other. Alright, that makes sense. I think I might know vaguely where you're headed with that. (ie: which people)
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Day 3
Jan 31, 2012 11:09:16 GMT -5
Post by Mountain on Jan 31, 2012 11:09:16 GMT -5
Mountain claimed to be a vanilla scanning as an independent thief. Tbh, I don't think town has much to lose on a Mountain lynch. Should he be telling the truth, then we have to accept it as a reasonable loss. But only if he turns out to be town. You never know, he could be mafia that scans independent. And if he was only trying to cover himself with it, then that indicates scum to me. tl;dr: No matter what Mountain flips, town effectively wins. ##Vote: MountainI agree. All you're losing is a townie who can't do anything. Though I have to disagree with your "either way town wins part." Mislynches don't cause wins. And as for your "he could be mafia that scans independent" idea, lets think about that for a minute. If I was mafia and I scanned independent. Why in the world would I ever claim anything other than independent? I mean I could easily be cleared and everyone would think I'm independent for the entire rest of the game. There is literally no reason for a mafia to claim this ability.
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Day 3
Jan 31, 2012 12:15:13 GMT -5
Post by Trail of Tears on Jan 31, 2012 12:15:13 GMT -5
Mountain is obv Grovyle and Grovyle is too much of a badass to be lynched. Worst case scenario is that he's somebody much less obvtown, like Drowzee, but that's still not a saboteur. Next.
The third scum is probably Dusknoir, who wouldn't scan as Independent Thief. Pretty sure mod left the set-up open to people gaming it with knowledge of the series' flavor, considering the flips we already have. Even if the last scum could be some weird psuedoGodfather, that's the worst fakeclaim ever, and when two of your buddies are dead and there's both a giant wagon on you and a claimed nightvig, you don't try to divert town with "this claim is too stupid to come from the last scum" WIFOM unless you deliberately want to lose.
##Unvote: Mountain (not letting him off hook for the entire game, but satisfied enough to not lynch him today) ##Vote: Call the Names So hey, your predecessor's D1 wasn't very good and you still haven't done anything to make up for it 24 hours into the day. You had 72 hours of nothing to catch up with, so this is just ridiculous. No excuse for being lurkscum. Reason I'm poking you for this and not MoaM is because we know you've checked in, while MoaM's replacement is still in "should be modkilled" territory like the playerslot has been in all fucking game.
FYI, this isn't a lurker prod so much as a call to lynch scum who hasn't been playing the daygame.
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Day 3
Jan 31, 2012 12:25:53 GMT -5
Post by Crashing Down on Jan 31, 2012 12:25:53 GMT -5
Mountain is obv Grovyle and Grovyle is too much of a badass to be lynched. Worst case scenario is that he's somebody much less obvtown, like Drowzee, but that's still not a saboteur. Next. The third scum is probably Dusknoir, who wouldn't scan as Independent Thief. Pretty sure mod left the set-up open to people gaming it with knowledge of the series' flavor, considering the flips we already have. Even if the last scum could be some weird psuedoGodfather, that's the worst fakeclaim ever, and when two of your buddies are dead and there's both a giant wagon on you and a claimed nightvig, you don't try to divert town with "this claim is too stupid to come from the last scum" WIFOM unless you deliberately want to lose. ##Unvote: Mountain (not letting him off hook for the entire game, but satisfied enough to not lynch him today) ##Vote: Call the NamesSo hey, your predecessor's D1 wasn't very good and you still haven't done anything to make up for it 24 hours into the day. You had 72 hours of nothing to catch up with, so this is just ridiculous. No excuse for being lurkscum. Reason I'm poking you for this and not MoaM is because we know you've checked in, while MoaM's replacement is still in "should be modkilled" territory like the playerslot has been in all fucking game. FYI, this isn't a lurker prod so much as a call to lynch scum who hasn't been playing the daygame. Oh hey. I like this idea! -Agree with Grovyle!Mountain -Agree that its Dusknoir There's only a few things I find scummy still. Why claim town that reads independent Thief? You could just claim Thief. And then there's the case of Call the Names and Measure of a Man. I feel that while Call the Names is scummy, I honestly find MoaM scummier for some reason. But w/e. I can shoot the other tonight. ##Unvote, ##Vote: Call the Names
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Day 3
Jan 31, 2012 12:58:48 GMT -5
Post by May Queen on Jan 31, 2012 12:58:48 GMT -5
What is the basis for assuming grovyle isn't scum and dusknoir is? Grovyle is a bad ass doesn't cut it.
Anyway, a townie that is scanned as a thief is stupid.
##Vote: Mountain
I just don't buy it.
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Day 3
Jan 31, 2012 13:48:53 GMT -5
Post by Measure of a Man on Jan 31, 2012 13:48:53 GMT -5
Sorry for the super late response. I managed to read through stuff as Day 2 ended. It's late where I am and I'm just here to post that the Sub is now hoping to be active. Haven't read Day 3 posts fully as of now but will as soon as I have time.
Also, I'd rather avoid mass claiming since the extra death is probably done by SK in my opinion. Unless we are confident we can get a lucky shot at the SK with the lynch. Also, I see something mentioned about a Skull team. Anyone would elaborate to me what that is?
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Day 3
Jan 31, 2012 15:04:57 GMT -5
Post by Call The Names on Jan 31, 2012 15:04:57 GMT -5
No, I really haven't. I've valued my academic life, going to the hospital to get 27 stitches in my hand, etc was more important for the time. I only haven't asked for another sub because the hosts are in a bit of a jam as it is and I don't want to be more of an asshole than I already was for subbing in when I shouldn't have offered to.
So hey. I hope you're faring better off than I am.
But enough about my little woes. First of all, I'd like to examine the wincon that the majority of us have. Namely that it only specifies the Saboteurs have to be eliminated. So I'm not entirely sure why anyone got the idea Team Skull was a thing unless they're specifying it's some weird third party wincon, in which case I'd wonder how they know this. Secondly I'd like to point out the emphasis on the fact that this voice is loud. This rather obviously points out a specific candidate of who that would be, namely Loudred. So I'm somewhat assured that the word of the announcer is the word of a Guild member. Third of all, and I'm definitely not the first to voice this, but a town member that scans as an independent thief is remarkably odd sounding- especially with the claim of vanilla, when it appears that the only "powerless" person who's died apparently would get powers later or something. So I'm wondering if there's more to this that Mountain simply doesn't want to reveal or if this is complete bullshit. Or maybe Mountain's role is legitimately ultra terrible as claimed, though I really doubt it. In any case, I think we'll get knowledge out of this lynch: either we learn that hey, we lynched a third party, or hey, some of the roles in this game are just bad. So ##Vote: Mountain, since I think this is the best course of action since lynching me is obviously an awful idea from my perspective and I think that we'll be on a good track with it.
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Day 3
Jan 31, 2012 15:23:02 GMT -5
Post by Crashing Down on Jan 31, 2012 15:23:02 GMT -5
What is the basis for assuming grovyle isn't scum and dusknoir is? Grovyle is a bad ass doesn't cut it. Anyway, a townie that is scanned as a thief is stupid. ##Vote: MountainI just don't buy it. Plot themed spoilers... SPOILERS. DO NOT READ IF YOU DO NOT WANT SPOILERS Well, in PMD, it starts with Grovyle stealing Time Gears. Dusknoir goes back in time to catch him. So far so good. Twists occur, and it turns out Dusknoir is in cahoots with Dialga. Grovyle and your Pokemon Character were partners in the future to stop the freezing of time. END SPOILER tl;dr, Dusknoir is actually evil in the games.
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Day 3
Jan 31, 2012 15:26:07 GMT -5
Post by Crashing Down on Jan 31, 2012 15:26:07 GMT -5
And as a thought, I could see Dusklnoir as scanning Either Town or Independent.
Because in the game he was sided with himself initially. But he helped get Grovyle, which is when that second paragraph began.
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Day 3
Jan 31, 2012 17:58:25 GMT -5
Post by Trail of Tears on Jan 31, 2012 17:58:25 GMT -5
CtN: Wasn't aware there were RL issues behind any of this. I admit I don't really leave the Mafia area of SF ever, so I wouldn't know if people are having personal problems.
I still don't think Mountain is the lynch for today after his claim, though. Should probably re-read soon now that I'm back from ~Finals, Pt. 1~.
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Day 3
Jan 31, 2012 18:56:22 GMT -5
Post by War Between Brothers on Jan 31, 2012 18:56:22 GMT -5
ToT raises a good point. Mountain could be Grovyle. But, I'm thinking that maybe he could be Dusknoir, as CD said. There's too many possibilities.
##Unvote: Mountain
Only for now. If nothing else comes up before phase end, the vote will probably come back.
CtN, WRT to Team Skull: I made a claim that Team Skull existed back in day 2, after (iirc) people dismissed the possibility in day/night 1.
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