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Day 3
Jan 30, 2012 18:44:31 GMT -5
Post by Sedna on Jan 30, 2012 18:44:31 GMT -5
Yeah I can persuade somebody else tonight, but honestly has that ever been the case? Where the mafia's kill and actions are connected so that you must do both or neither?
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Day 3
Jan 30, 2012 18:53:29 GMT -5
Post by Trail of Tears on Jan 30, 2012 18:53:29 GMT -5
No, I mean, scum typically can't NK and persuade at the same time. They can NK somebody, or persuade somebody, but not do both.
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Day 3
Jan 30, 2012 20:05:47 GMT -5
Post by Mountain on Jan 30, 2012 20:05:47 GMT -5
##Vote MountainDislike this post. I don't see any conclusions being made on who might be scum in it, just a lot of reporter-style recaps on what people have been doing. Given MoaM wasn't getting lynched at that point in the day, it just looks like a votepark that Mountain made to avoid being held accountable for a vote on any wagon that actually had a chance of flipping that day. Her comments on Exile in particular were notably waffly, something I'm wary of. As for right now, it's Day 3 and we have two scumflips to work with, so voting a lurker instead of taking flips into account is a total waste of vote at this point, especially since we know that MoaM had to request a replacement anyway. Not providing any solid opinions on the players who have been talking is scummy at this stage, so I think Mountain continuing to vote MoaM right now just means she's taking the easy way out of actually scumhunting. Well first off I am definitely of the male gender. Other than that, I think on some people I give a little opinion. But that post was mostly to help me think. I had thought I was putting in more opinions but hey, I guess not. I did indeed express my honest opinion by voting MoaM because after typing out that post he/she was the person who seemed least beneficial/most scummy/etc. I was waffly(theres that word again lol) on Exile because I didn't exactly see why he/she was being voted. You say I wouldn't want to be associated with flips, but isn't not being associated with a flip what is making me seem scummy now? So obviously if I was mafia, voting for Exile would have been the better choice, especially with my admittedly less than stellar reasoning behind my vote. As for the 2nd paragraph I will admit I didn't actually look at the results of the day, so I wasn't aware that Exile had flipped mafia. But thats just my forgetfulness getting in the way lol. After homework I'll probably go and look back at day 2.
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Day 3
Jan 30, 2012 20:07:20 GMT -5
Post by Mountain on Jan 30, 2012 20:07:20 GMT -5
No, I mean, scum typically can't NK and persuade at the same time. They can NK somebody, or persuade somebody, but not do both. Is that just with persuading? Because whenever I've been mafia, whoever is doing the night kill can still perform their action in addition to the kill.
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Day 3
Jan 30, 2012 20:08:22 GMT -5
Post by Sedna on Jan 30, 2012 20:08:22 GMT -5
No, I mean, scum typically can't NK and persuade at the same time. They can NK somebody, or persuade somebody, but not do both. What does NK stand for? I've been interpreting it as "No Kill" but I'm probably wrong and its probably why I don't understand.
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Day 3
Jan 30, 2012 20:14:13 GMT -5
Post by Trail of Tears on Jan 30, 2012 20:14:13 GMT -5
NK = Nightkill
I'm used to scum only getting one action per night outside of special cases. I don't know if the policies are different here.
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Day 3
Jan 30, 2012 20:26:23 GMT -5
Post by Sedna on Jan 30, 2012 20:26:23 GMT -5
NK = Nightkill I'm used to scum only getting one action per night outside of special cases. I don't know if the policies are different here. Ahh. While you may be correct, I believe the more likely possibility is that the mafia collectively gets a NK, and then each individual has their own ability(s). That seems to be the way it is generally done in SF mafia games.
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Day 3
Jan 30, 2012 20:56:55 GMT -5
Post by Fisherman's Boy on Jan 30, 2012 20:56:55 GMT -5
bleh ##Unvote: Crashing DownI'm the Vigilante. I shot Kingsword. I felt that he was the best target. My apologies for shooting a townie. I have 1 shot left, though, before I become as useful as a limp noodle. Yesterday, you claimed that you thought Mountain was most likely to be mafia, what changed your mind? ##Vote: Fisherman's BoySomething about you doesn't seem quite right. You seem to be tunneling, although I've come to find out that somebody has told you to tunnel. Also I'd like to remind you that summaries are not the only method of analysis. Ask questions, put people under scrutiny, etc. What part of what I've been doing is supposed to be tunneling? @bold: double what? ##Vote MountainDislike this post. I don't see any conclusions being made on who might be scum in it, just a lot of reporter-style recaps on what people have been doing. Given MoaM wasn't getting lynched at that point in the day, it just looks like a votepark that Mountain made to avoid being held accountable for a vote on any wagon that actually had a chance of flipping that day. Her comments on Exile in particular were notably waffly, something I'm wary of. As for right now, it's Day 3 and we have two scumflips to work with, so voting a lurker instead of taking flips into account is a total waste of vote at this point, especially since we know that MoaM had to request a replacement anyway. Not providing any solid opinions on the players who have been talking is scummy at this stage, so I think Mountain continuing to vote MoaM right now just means she's taking the easy way out of actually scumhunting. Well first off I am definitely of the male gender. Other than that, I think on some people I give a little opinion. But that post was mostly to help me think. I had thought I was putting in more opinions but hey, I guess not. I did indeed express my honest opinion by voting MoaM because after typing out that post he/she was the person who seemed least beneficial/most scummy/etc. I was waffly(theres that word again lol) on Exile because I didn't exactly see why he/she was being voted. You say I wouldn't want to be associated with flips, but isn't not being associated with a flip what is making me seem scummy now? So obviously if I was mafia, voting for Exile would have been the better choice, especially with my admittedly less than stellar reasoning behind my vote. As for the 2nd paragraph I will admit I didn't actually look at the results of the day, so I wasn't aware that Exile had flipped mafia. But thats just my forgetfulness getting in the way lol. After homework I'll probably go and look back at day 2. Well, if you have such a grasp on what's going on, why don't you tell us what you think? ##Vote: MountainAlso I think I'm going to ##Vote: Measure of a Man again. With the reasoning that he/she should talk. Unless was he one of the ones that needs a sub? Cause then I'd feel like a jerk. I don't know why Measure of a Man hasn't been subbed out yet, but that's what the vig is for (if we can even trust our vig). Try using your vote more proactively than that. So far you're failing to break your pattern of pseudo-contributing and it's got me on edge.
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Day 3
Jan 30, 2012 23:24:50 GMT -5
Post by Sedna on Jan 30, 2012 23:24:50 GMT -5
Tunneling in that you're only focusing on 2-3 players and ignoring everyone else. I semi-retract this accusation because I saw that ToT told you to leave out summaries of people who are irrelevent to the discussion.
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Day 3
Jan 30, 2012 23:27:29 GMT -5
Post by Trail of Tears on Jan 30, 2012 23:27:29 GMT -5
Not so much the people who were irrelevant to discussion so much as the people who would just end in "null read, idk, and nobody is talking about them so idc".
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Day 3
Jan 30, 2012 23:43:08 GMT -5
Post by Crashing Down on Jan 30, 2012 23:43:08 GMT -5
OK, reading through the last while I have some logical conclusions.
-Fisherman's Boy is weirdo scumtown. As in, I think he's scummy, but not actually scum -ToT is town -Miles vanished, but so far, town -Mountain is once again top o' mah scumlist.
##Vote: Mountain
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Day 3
Jan 31, 2012 0:06:15 GMT -5
Post by Mountain on Jan 31, 2012 0:06:15 GMT -5
Well, if you have such a grasp on what's going on, why don't you tell us what you think? ##Vote: MountainI feel like if I said anything in that long post of mine you quoted, I most certainly did not say that I had such a grasp on what's going on. Hence the "I need to read day 2 again" part. And the "I hadn't read the day's results" part. (#somisunderstood) Anyways, I may as well claim I suppose. I meant to claim this earlier but totally forgot. Typical. Also, just fyi, its not going to make me seem any less scummy. I'm basically a miller. Except instead of turning up mafia upon investigation, I turn up as an Independent Thief. No other special abilities or anything.
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Day 3
Jan 31, 2012 0:16:54 GMT -5
Post by Sedna on Jan 31, 2012 0:16:54 GMT -5
Well, if you have such a grasp on what's going on, why don't you tell us what you think? ##Vote: MountainI feel like if I said anything in that long post of mine you quoted, I most certainly did not say that I had such a grasp on what's going on. Hence the "I need to read day 2 again" part. And the "I hadn't read the day's results" part. (#somisunderstood) Anyways, I may as well claim I suppose. I meant to claim this earlier but totally forgot. Typical. Also, just fyi, its not going to make me seem any less scummy. I'm basically a miller. Except instead of turning up mafia upon investigation, I turn up as an Independent Thief. No other special abilities or anything. Interesting. I'm not sure whether this makes you more or less scummy, but at least we know that there aren't big repercussions to lynching you.
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Day 3
Jan 31, 2012 0:29:51 GMT -5
Post by Trail of Tears on Jan 31, 2012 0:29:51 GMT -5
Mountain: What's your character flavor? I can kind of guess, but...
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Day 3
Jan 31, 2012 5:31:13 GMT -5
Post by Miles to Go on Jan 31, 2012 5:31:13 GMT -5
Sorry, I'm here. I actually missed the last day of discussion yesterday because I didn't even know there had been an extension so I didn't bother to check the game that day. I'm still not sure why Kingsword was shot, given that he kind of sealed Exile's fate yesterday. Mountain: You scan as independent thief, eh? How interesting. Especially since the only items we know of in the game are only usable by specific pokemon and were handed out by what amounted to a town inventor. Also if you only "scan" as that role, what's your real one? I'm having trouble seeing you as town if you're a thief, as it's perfectly logical to give the mafia a thief to counter an inventor.
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