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Day 2
Jan 25, 2012 22:01:10 GMT -5
Post by Crashing Down on Jan 25, 2012 22:01:10 GMT -5
Time for some interrogationist crap. Kingsword: Are you lurking? Because you haven't been on in a while. @measure of a Man: Speak, vote, or be shot by the vig. Mountain 2.0: If you can, please come do some speaking so we can try and pull you out of the hole that got dug for you. @everyone else: The rest of you, in town-to-scum order. ToT MtG May Queen Sedna WBB Inspiration Kingsword MoaM Not including Call the Names because I honestly haven't seen much from them. Not including Mountain because the first version did a downright crappy job being defensive.
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Day 2
Jan 25, 2012 22:01:56 GMT -5
Post by Crashing Down on Jan 25, 2012 22:01:56 GMT -5
Add Exile to the bottom of that list. I knew I forgot someone.
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Day 2
Jan 25, 2012 22:29:38 GMT -5
Post by Kay on Jan 25, 2012 22:29:38 GMT -5
No, it wasn't too late to request an extension. Consider the phase extended an extra day.
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Day 2
Jan 25, 2012 22:32:52 GMT -5
Post by Trail of Tears on Jan 25, 2012 22:32:52 GMT -5
I'd rather just have 72 hour deadlines in general (since 48 hours tend to rush ordinary towns and are downright ridiculous to the extent of not getting a chance to improve for :lazytowns:) but shruuuuug. I support an extension.
Are Exile and CTN getting replaced before the end of the day?
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Day 2
Jan 25, 2012 22:33:10 GMT -5
Post by Trail of Tears on Jan 25, 2012 22:33:10 GMT -5
*not giving a chance
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Day 2
Jan 25, 2012 23:06:58 GMT -5
Post by Inspiration on Jan 25, 2012 23:06:58 GMT -5
Thanks Kay! By the way, I forgot to mention how much I love your avatar.
I totally expect the rest of you guys to talk and I also hope that those who requested subs will get them before phase end.
Good night!
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Day 2
Jan 25, 2012 23:27:46 GMT -5
Post by Mountain on Jan 25, 2012 23:27:46 GMT -5
Mmk. I have read. Sorry for giving away who I was basically, but considering my predecessor left me as one of the scummiest players, I at least wanted enough time to read what I've missed.
Also, can someone give me a quick explanation of this Exile vote?
Meanwhile, here are all of my player thoughts based on what I have read, taken notes on, and remember: King Sword: During the day he did almost nothing worth mentioning. 3 early pointless posts, a sheep on TS without much reasoning, then another mostly pointless post also mentioning he doesn't like MtG reasoning against Me. His night posts and posts today were more informational and helpful though, iirc.
ToT: Definitely seems to be one of the most helpful players. Shows evidence of reading everyone's posts, considering all possibilities, and evaluating logic. Got into a lot of exchanges with players that proved overall helpful, as far as I can tell.
Fisher: Not much to say about him. Almost nonexistent in day 1. All that i have of note is that he points out some of MQs more questionable behavior. I don't have much memory of him more recently either. Did all that pronoun stuff that was kind of silly.
WBB: Starts out passive and quiet. Votes ToT after Tot votes for him. Says what looks like a 3rd party soft claim, but says it isn't. Reveals a third party he knows about because he is informed. His actions seem strange to me, but his justification of revealing the third party and the logic behind it seems decent enough.
MtG: Mostly tunneling on me and getting in to arguments with past me. Logic was okay but overall the argument from both sides was kind of dumb. His night and today posts have been better, talking about more people than just me is a good sign.
CtN: Early vote on MQ for sheeping. Not the best at communicating/defending their ideas. Can't remember much of them past day1.
CD: Extremely weak day 1 presence. Questionable day 2 logic. Summaries seem scattered and distracting, especially considering someone already did a summary...
MoaM: Extremely weak day 1 presence again. I also can't even remember anything of note you said past that point either.
Inspiration: Was "sheeped" early on. Voted Exile for no reason. Doesn't say anything more of note then unvotes Exile. Did do summaries and rank the players Night 1 though.
Sedna: Gives a lot of info(compared to others) in posts. Did not want to lynch TS. Thought MtG was looking too hard into what "I" said, but didn't oppose possibly lynching "me."Votes MQ for flip flopping and suspicious behavior. Really really doesn't want TS lynched. Voted for WBB at some point. Ranked players during night. Decent contributions. Claimed persuader(which I feel like believing).
MQ: Early "sheeping." Votes "me" for being so quiet, supports organization. Was testing inspiration's reaction, passed. Did vote TS without unvoting Mountain, which was interesting but probably just a forgetful mistake. Can't remember anything else of note. Lots of people pointed out his voting pattern of inactives with votes already on them.
Exile: As soon as he comes in he votes "me." Later posts and both disagrees and agrees with MtG and keeps vote the same. Switches to WBB because he doesn't feel like contributing. Is being voted by a lot of people and I'm not 100% sure why.
Mountain: Lets see. The old me came in really late, had an eh response to the votes on him, rubbed MtG the wrong way, got in some weird argument with MtG where they both kind of did and didn't insult each other while also making sure they wee saying they meant no offense and accusing each other of doing different things when they were both pretty much doing exactly the same thing. Disappeared for long periods of time(I may not be much better here. School is busy and I'm going on a trip this weekend.)
Going off just what I remember I am inclined to ##Vote: Measure of a Man because I couldn't really get anything positive from him. but I'm still eager to learn more about whats going on with this Exile lynch.
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Day 2
Jan 25, 2012 23:29:00 GMT -5
Post by Sedna on Jan 25, 2012 23:29:00 GMT -5
Okay, here's that analysis post that I promised.
First thing to note-activity. Not too important but gives something to look at.
ToT(38) CD(24) MtG(22) Sedna(20) King(14) Insp(13) FB(13) Mtn(13) CtN(12) MQ(10) WBB(8) Exile(8) Measure of a Man(3)
##Unvote ##Vote: Measure of a Man Still in favor of an Exile lynch but MoaM needs to be pressured. I know I said I am not a fan of lynches for inactivity, but something must be done.
So, on to actually analyzing youse guise... ToT- Sound logic, active, no qualms with you MtG- See above --- King- 2nd to vote for TS May Queen- voted for TS Inspiration- Apprehensive of you, but obviously much less than others --- Call the Names-Need your sub Mountain-need more time for assessment --- Crashing Down- Somehow you managed to rack up a bunch of posts very quickly, but you've done very little accept be waffley and summarize stuff. FB-not much solid contributions, get in, vote, tell us what you think. --- WBB- Productivity, better than D1, at least MoaM-activity Exile- For inexplicably avoiding voting for TS
Fisherman's Boy, Measure of a man, Exile, and Mountain all still have yet to vote. Let's change that asap, please.
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Day 2
Jan 25, 2012 23:33:48 GMT -5
Post by Sedna on Jan 25, 2012 23:33:48 GMT -5
Mountain- The Exile lynchwagon is based on his D1 votes for Mountain and WBB for inactivity when TS was the most inactive. He seemed to avoid to vote for the scum. Also he hasn't really done anything productive. The first few posts of this day explain it well.
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Day 2
Jan 25, 2012 23:47:05 GMT -5
Post by War Between Brothers on Jan 25, 2012 23:47:05 GMT -5
RE: WBB: It's just a name drop, and town doesn't really learn anything about them aside from their presence. If you gave us solid information like "Team Skull is a third party alignment and they win if at least one of their members survives to endgame", that'd be more trustworthy. Perhaps knowing of their presence could be useful to some? Unfortunately, all I know is that at least one person is of that alignment (from role), and I have no additional information on their wincon at all. Which is fair enough. But remaining hidden may allow them to last longer and get closer to their wincon, but again, I'm not sure on their wincon. They could be allies to guild, or not. I'm really not sure. By throwing that out there, maybe some more information could be deduced about them. Looking at the Exile bandwagon: I don't really see much in it. I'm very neutral, but more likely to shift to lynch him. But however, I'm still fairly inclined to keep my vote on CD (if I had a choice), but CD has put forward some (admittedly shaky) arguments that have swayed my opinion a bit. Closer to neutral than before. I'd rather just have 72 hour deadlines in general (since 48 hours tend to rush ordinary towns and are downright ridiculous to the extent of not getting a chance to improve for :lazytowns:) but shruuuuug. I support an extension. ^ And this.
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Day 2
Jan 25, 2012 23:49:08 GMT -5
Post by Mountain on Jan 25, 2012 23:49:08 GMT -5
Hmm ok, I see now. But Exile was far from the only one who didn't vote TS. There were even other people who outright didn't want him lynched.
Also, does anyone else find it interesting that when whoever tells WBB,iirc, that just because they are persuaded doesn't mean they can't share their opinion, WBB votes for CtN as he is supposed to but then makes a huge long post with justification for the vote? If you're persuaded you don't have to justify your vote. And giving your opinion only on the person you have to vote for doesn't really give anyone else anything to go off of.
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Day 2
Jan 25, 2012 23:50:51 GMT -5
Post by Mountain on Jan 25, 2012 23:50:51 GMT -5
lol, I mean CD instead of CtN. Maybe I shouldn't be using these abbreviations so much they're easy to mix up.
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Day 2
Jan 26, 2012 0:06:13 GMT -5
Post by War Between Brothers on Jan 26, 2012 0:06:13 GMT -5
Also, does anyone else find it interesting that when whoever tells WBB,iirc, that just because they are persuaded doesn't mean they can't share their opinion, WBB votes for CtN as he is supposed to but then makes a huge long post with justification for the vote? If you're persuaded you don't have to justify your vote. And giving your opinion only on the person you have to vote for doesn't really give anyone else anything to go off of. I can see your point there, but I felt I should put at least some effort into a vote. Besides, looking at CD's posts, it did look quite glaring, and without the forced vote, I probably wouldn't be nearly as productive as I am now (which isn't that much, but it's better.). Sometimes you have to argue a point that you don't agree with. It just turns out that the argument was solid anyway. (Or something.)
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Day 2
Jan 26, 2012 0:12:39 GMT -5
Post by Trail of Tears on Jan 26, 2012 0:12:39 GMT -5
WBB: Do you actually think CD is scummy / worth voting? It's hard to tell from your posts.
Mountain: Main problem with Exile is that even after avoiding Silver, he was responsible for pushing another player's wagon to equal terms with the Silver wagon at a late point in the day, which could have been scum's attempt to save their buddy with a counterwagon. It's scummy when vote count analysis is considered, though VCA this game is harder than it should be because few people were actually voting that day.
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Day 2
Jan 26, 2012 0:16:19 GMT -5
Post by War Between Brothers on Jan 26, 2012 0:16:19 GMT -5
WBB: Do you actually think CD is scummy / worth voting? It's hard to tell from your posts. Nice prompt there. That's probably what I'm missing. I'll be completely clear. I think that CD still has some explaining to do, and until such a point where she clarifies exactly her position, I think she's a strong possibility for voting. There are some instances where I think she's being a bit scummy, other times not. It's a bit hard to tell.
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